http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ The Hobbit Movie Forum » Recent Posts en Thu, 17 May 2012 11:17:30 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/too-all-the-whiners#post-9459 Thu, 17 May 2012 09:51:37 +0000 pettytyrant 9459@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>I'll miss you Richard- you are such a cheery fellow- always willing to join in the laughs and banter, never taking the whole thing too seriously and not a touch of melodrama about you........ </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/too-all-the-whiners#post-9454 Thu, 17 May 2012 05:14:16 +0000 richard cieslik 9454@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>This forum used to be a frequent visit, but the predominance of whining and whinging about every decision you assume PJ has made, and the constant barrage of hate posts have turned me off.<br /> Here's my last post, feel free to vent your heart out, I won;t be reading it.</p> <p>1. It doesn't matter how the hell you think the film SHOULD be made, it will be whatever PJ decides it will be.<br /> 2. Given that, and given your previous well documented dislike of the LOTR films, and given that in all likelihood PJ will make significant changes to the Hobbit...you won't like the Hobbit Movie<br /> 3. Given THAT, it would be best if you simply don't see the film.<br /> 4. Since you aren't going to see the film, because you won't like it, you don't have to post in this forum anymore, as it is a forum about the new Hobbit movie, and nothing else.<br /> 5. But as you will anyway, because you all seem to enjoy making posts that do nothing but criticise every aspect of the film's production, well, good luck, enjoy your ranting posts, expect to be disappointed.</p> <p>Good bye </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end/page/2#post-9453 Wed, 16 May 2012 20:07:13 +0000 pettytyrant 9453@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Its less fun- and less Greek -they still have a currency in Mandos. :) </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end/page/2#post-9452 Wed, 16 May 2012 17:00:14 +0000 julia mellor 9452@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Mandos? is that a Greek Island? you know like Lesbos? </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end/page/2#post-9451 Wed, 16 May 2012 15:18:46 +0000 pettytyrant 9451@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>I feel ill- you should all be sent to the Halls of Mandos! </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end/page/2#post-9450 Wed, 16 May 2012 14:54:16 +0000 lance 9450@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Julia - you are such a woman. </p> <p>I would have gone with fall in love with Smaug and have elfdragon babies. Something mean! </p> <p>Lugburz was fall in minutes with shield skating dragon attacks. Lots of violence. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end/page/2#post-9444 Tue, 15 May 2012 20:39:25 +0000 julia mellor 9444@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>But she probably falls in love with Kili and they have medium sized babies with big axes. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end/page/2#post-9443 Tue, 15 May 2012 20:35:20 +0000 julia mellor 9443@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>okaaay, what if Tauriel falls in love with The Necromancer and they have lots of little Mouth of Sauron babies running and hopping about in 3D, how cute is that? </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end/page/2#post-9442 Tue, 15 May 2012 17:01:57 +0000 Todd VanDelinder 9442@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>OMG now I'm really thrilled to see these films LMAO I truly hope my local theater has barf bags ;) </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end/page/2#post-9441 Tue, 15 May 2012 16:12:32 +0000 julia mellor 9441@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>No Tauriel will fall in love with a giant bunnywabbit, and they will have lots of bunnywabbit babies running and hopping everywhere in 3D, how cute is that? </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end#post-9439 Mon, 14 May 2012 22:23:09 +0000 Joel Becker 9439@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Palo, I'm glad I wasn't taking a bite of my food when I read your post. I probably would have spit it out all over the computer. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end#post-9438 Mon, 14 May 2012 20:56:12 +0000 Palo Stoney 9438@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>The first movie will end with Galadriel saying "I love you" &amp; Gandalf replying "I know" </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end#post-9437 Mon, 14 May 2012 17:02:57 +0000 pettytyrant 9437@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Just assume Halfwise this post consists of a very long list of all the worst expletives. Saves me typing them all out. :) </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-will-the-first-hobbit-movie-end#post-9436 Mon, 14 May 2012 16:25:30 +0000 halfwise 9436@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>the first movie will end with the love scene between Tauriel and Thorin. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-the-hell-is-aragon/page/2#post-9433 Fri, 11 May 2012 18:37:55 +0000 Todd VanDelinder 9433@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Yeah its been a few years but yt the whole "bridge" film ideas keep popping up. I have no idea why since PJ squashed those when he took over. but its cook personally I like that the films don't butt right up to each other. i really have had no desire to see Aragorn again other than rewatching the trilogy. Things like Gollum leaving the misty mountains and Aragorn following him and his capture and escape and the ringwraiths all that stuff was great to read in Tolkiens writings but I can't see Jackson and crew coming up with a way to make those events between the Hobbit.and LOTR work in a way that would do them justice. It would end up being as interesting as all the stuff they.made up to insert in LOTR... Who knows maybe after the Hobbit they'll make another film about the in between time. there are enough PJ loyalists over at TORN to make it a number one movie </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/where-the-hell-is-aragon/page/2#post-9432 Fri, 11 May 2012 17:03:46 +0000 Eldorion 9432@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Guillermo del Toro gave an interview back in 2008 (when he was still signed on to be the director) saying that the bridge idea was rejected and PJ had indicated the same thing in subsequent comments. I'm not sure why that idea has proven so resilient among fans. :P AFAIK, the only "bridge" between TH and LOTR will be material like the White Council that is incorporated into the narrative of the two films that comprise a single whole. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/mystery-dwarf#post-9431 Fri, 11 May 2012 07:18:20 +0000 lance 9431@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Everyone has always mentioned a flashback scene as being the likley intro to the second film... most have thought it woudl be a Smaug killing everyone. Maybe it is more of a brief history of Erebor from Dwarves running from the grey mountains, discovery of the arkenstone and then smaugs visit. Sure that could be all covered in a few minutes. Might also serve as a good introduction to Dain as they could slot him in to the history too. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/mystery-dwarf#post-9430 Fri, 11 May 2012 04:03:50 +0000 Beleg 9430@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Landon,</p> <p>I don't think that Thror was a prosperous dwarf any more when he went to Moria. Also, if I'm going into a dark mine, I'm lighting my torch or mining helmet BEFORE I get into the dark. I like the idea of wearing the mining helmet because I have 2 hands free with which to fight. I don't know what it would be like to fight with candles mounted on your helmet, but I'm lighting that baby up before I walk in rather than fumbling with it in the dark.</p> <p>It could very well depict the discovery of the Arkenstone as well, I'm just saying what my first reaction was. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/dancing-rabbits-and-flaming-bags-of-poo/page/3#post-9429 Thu, 10 May 2012 22:27:49 +0000 pettytyrant 9429@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Rangers will survive even if we are reduced to Sunday League and jumpers for goal posts.<br /> Thats the thing business will forget about football at its peril- all these agents, inflated egos and wages, ridiculous tranfer fees that are killing the game outside of the big leagues- none of it matters- it could all go tomorrow- so long as 22 guys have a love of the game a ball and four jumpers spare and want to play thats all you need. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/dancing-rabbits-and-flaming-bags-of-poo/page/3#post-9428 Thu, 10 May 2012 22:00:51 +0000 Palo Stoney 9428@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Oops, sorry Petty. I've an affinity for Rangers after seeing some of our greats move to yours in the 80's/early 90's (Chris Woods, Kevin Drinkell, Disco Dale Gordon!) &amp; you very kindly selling us Robert Fleck. Hope you guys get out of it. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/dancing-rabbits-and-flaming-bags-of-poo/page/3#post-9427 Thu, 10 May 2012 21:31:28 +0000 pettytyrant 9427@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>I might not be the best person to ask about Mr Lambert- I'm a Glasgow Rangers fan, which is more than painful enough right now without having to talk about Celtic greats!! </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/dancing-rabbits-and-flaming-bags-of-poo/page/3#post-9426 Thu, 10 May 2012 21:25:20 +0000 Palo Stoney 9426@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Ah, football, isn't it? Jumpers for goal posts, hurt knees.</p> <p>Now there's something to unite &amp; tear apart former polar opposites on this forum! </p> <p>Petty - I may need your servies to translate the wonderful Paul Lambert as he's got one of the strongest Glaswegian accents I've ever heard. Man's a genius though!</p> <p>Beleg - how do? Like your thoughts on "the actual driving out of the Necromancer would look like nothing more than a seance". Would be a bit anti-climatic everyone sat around a ouija board, eh?</p> <p>Still, almost only 7 months to go &amp; we all get to see what the fuss is about? Are even the most worried still planning on going, or will only a major turnaround in reports send some of the less enthusiastic members along? </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/mystery-dwarf#post-9425 Thu, 10 May 2012 20:42:25 +0000 Landon 9425@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Beleg&gt;&gt; That was my first thought too, Beleg, but others have brought up good questions about that theory: 1) If it's Thror, why is he not dressed more richly, being Durin's heir and all? 2) Thror only made it a few steps into Moria, but the dwarf in the PV is wearing a miner's helmet with candles mounted on horns. It doesn't seem like someone who's just barely stepped in out of the sun would have candles on his head . . .</p> <p>Thoughts/rebuttals? </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/characters-needed-and-not-needed-from-lotr/page/48#post-9423 Thu, 10 May 2012 04:55:47 +0000 Recoveryanonymous 9423@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Howard Shore seems like the one field in which I know this film will be good: the music. This film has a lot of ground to cover and obstacles (of it's own creation) to overcome to win me over with the visuals.<br /> And at this point, it seems as though the story is going to need to perform some magic to convince me not to hate it. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/dancing-rabbits-and-flaming-bags-of-poo/page/3#post-9420 Thu, 10 May 2012 00:57:34 +0000 Nikitas C 9420@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Well basketball is a wondefull sport i have to agree, since a 4 point lead with 20 seconds to go meens nothing. But again,I like the NBA (gO Celtics :D) i prefer Europian better since its more organized. </p> <p>ps: I never forget <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb6UnFvBIhE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb6UnFvBIhE</a> i am from greece :) </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/dancing-rabbits-and-flaming-bags-of-poo/page/3#post-9419 Wed, 09 May 2012 22:20:35 +0000 Joel Becker 9419@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Soccer highlights can be fun to watch, but I've tried to watch an full game... no dice. I bet if I understood it more, I'll like it more, but... meh. I like American football, but I'm more of a basketball fan myself (played in high school). </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/characters-needed-and-not-needed-from-lotr/page/48#post-9418 Wed, 09 May 2012 22:17:20 +0000 Joel Becker 9418@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Well, at least we can count on good ol' Howard Shore to make the movies aurally pleasing and exciting. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/characters-needed-and-not-needed-from-lotr/page/48#post-9417 Wed, 09 May 2012 17:08:59 +0000 julia mellor 9417@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>I agree with you Petty I think PJ expected the film critics to come out of the test screening smiling and ready to run away and write rave reviews, but instead they came out disappointed and feeling cheated. Its the subject matter involved, a war film for example or something like the Bourne Identity series would have been better in 48fps and 3D, nobody would have had a problem and I am sure it would have had an exciting buzz. But fantasy by its very nature is not 'reality' and harsh gritty effects look strange and it pulls you out of the dream like atmosphere, not a good thing at all. I think at this stage its a waste of time worrying about the script or the characterizations, they are not going to be Tolkien, we all know its going to be Tolkien in name only, so my main concerns are a beautiful looking Middle Earth.<br /> What does give me some hope however is the trailer, that was in 28fps and it looked good. If I can see the film in 28fps i will be happier. Afterall how many cinemas are going to invest with all these negative reviews? </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/characters-needed-and-not-needed-from-lotr/page/48#post-9415 Wed, 09 May 2012 14:37:36 +0000 pettytyrant 9415@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Actually I think its pretty much as straightforward as just removing every other frame.</p> <p>The worry, for me anyway is not confined to TH, but to future film going in this direction as well.</p> <p>But my main focus of discontent is all to do with the script not the aesthetics. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/characters-needed-and-not-needed-from-lotr/page/48#post-9414 Wed, 09 May 2012 14:18:11 +0000 Beleg 9414@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>As far as I am aware the film will be released in 48 and 24 speeds so it can be shown in cinemas without the 48 (most of them). -pettytyrant</p> <p>If this is the case are we not getting worked up over nothing?</p> <p>If you don't want to see it in 48 fps you don't have to...or if reports are that the final film looks poor (you can see the wigs, etc.) in 48 fps, you just go see it at one of the more common cinemas that shows only 24 fps.</p> <p>I don't understand how they can produce 2 different films though. Surely they are not using dual cameras for every angle, and editing two sets of film...so it must be some kind of digital conversion from 48 fps to 24. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/dancing-rabbits-and-flaming-bags-of-poo/page/3#post-9413 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:58:11 +0000 pettytyrant 9413@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>I partly agree Nikitas about the rules in the modern game- but then I watched football in the 70's and frankly it was often borderline thuggery. That couldn't go on. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/characters-needed-and-not-needed-from-lotr/page/48#post-9412 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:55:19 +0000 pettytyrant 9412@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Beleg there seems to be a lot of folks thinking the 'unfinshed footage' line is just that- a line- yes effects still had to be added, no doubt colouring grading too, but the whole point of this presentation was to sell the 48frames thing to the people who would have to pay for the upgrades to their cinemas.<br /> Do you really think at such an important commercial excercise they sent roughs? I don't, I reckon they sent what they thought was the best stuff. The place it was shown was state of the art. The result therefore is worrying depsite all the 'its unfinished' backpedalling going on since.</p> <p>As far as I am aware the film will be released in 48 and 24 speeds so it can be shown in cinemas without the 48 (most of them). </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/characters-needed-and-not-needed-from-lotr/page/48#post-9411 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:38:13 +0000 Beleg 9411@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>Julia, I understand your concern, but these critics were not looking at the finished product.</p> <p>Here's a question though. If a theater doesn't invest in the equipment required to show the 48 fps, what will the film look like in their theater? Will that solve the "problem?"</p> <p>When I first heard about the 48 fps (before anyone saw it) I thought it was a great idea and I was thinking that I've got to make sure that I go see it somewhere that has the equipment so I can get the full benefit. Now I'm thinking that possibly the reverse may be true. Still though, do you really think he is going to spend untold millions on a film that looks like crap aesthetically? Where you can tell the characters are in wigs? I don't see it. Surely he has more pride than that. Surely he tested the 48 fps on something before he made the plunge to use it. Surely there is a plan to "clean it up" before it becomes a final product.</p> <p>I work with video (consumer video, not pro) a little for personal use and I've worked with video that is 15 fps and 30 fps. The 30 fps is far better (smoother). For this reason I assumed that 48 fps would be better than 24. Surely PJ did more than assume. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/characters-needed-and-not-needed-from-lotr/page/48#post-9410 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:18:15 +0000 julia mellor 9410@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>I agree about LOTR it was a beautiful looking film, and with the music of Howard Shore combined it was very very seductive, it kind of made me forget the glaring plot and character changes, like poor old Faramir. But from what these film critics say, that this new 48 fps the film has lost its 'magic' that it looks 'cheap' and like a made for tv BBC production, that the sets look fake and they could tell people were wearing wigs, for f-ing crying out loud! Its a FANTASY film, I dont want reality I dont want it to look like a behind the scenes Quint video blog, I want at least the beauty and magic of LOTR, thats all I want at this stage of the game, I have lost hope in actually seeing the Hobbit in any form like the book, it aint gonna happen. </p> http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/topic/mystery-dwarf#post-9409 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:03:15 +0000 Beleg 9409@http://the-hobbit-movie.com/forum/ <p>The image we saw could depict the discovery of the Arkenstone, that is a good guess. However, my gut reaction when I saw it was that it was Thror peaking inside Moria as he entered alone never to be seen alive again. </p>