The Hobbit Movie Forum

[Odo Banks]

Hugo Weaving is a quality actor, but I wasn't keen on his Elrond either. I think you're on the money there, Eldorion.

Odo

[Eldorion]

Thanks Odo. I haven't seen Mr. Weaving in many films but I did like him in The Matrix where he was supposed to be evil.

[Gandalfs Beard]

I actually loved Hugo as Elrond, but the first time I watched the film I couldn't get the image of Agent Smith out of my mind .

GB

[Zeonista]

It seems in the Movie, Lord of the Rings, the Dwarves are Hardly mention, save Gimli. Many people say that, "Hey, why did the dwarves just sit on their butts and just dig for Gold, while the Darkness and Shadow Grew?". Yet, I do not know why Peter Jackson did not include them, because they fended off the Shadow from coming into the Lonely Mountain, or passing its borders. The Dwarves do play quite a role in the War of the Ring.

Peter Jackson didn't show much of the Dwarves onscreen because the Dwarves weren't present much in the original story. The Dwarves tended to stay at home and mind their own business, and expect others to do likewise, most of the time. Gimli and Gloin were present at the Council of Elrond, and Gimli was chosen to go as an available and willing representative of the Dwarves. Gimli was meant to represent the "everyman Dwarf" much as Legolas was the "everyman Elf", and their point of views were meant to reflect attitudes beyond those of Men and Hobbits, which were rather more familiar to the reader.

So take heart in the knowledge that Gimli was in some ways all the Dwarves as one, more often than not. He diverged from the collective a little, in his love for Lady Galadriel and his ability to become ready friends with other peoples. This was unusual for the Dwarves, whom Tolkien repeatedly described as being loyal to friends, but living apart from other people and having few dealings with them. (It should be remembered that Gloin originally came to the Council to warn Bilbo that the Enemy was looking for him.)

[Odo Banks]

And why didn't PJ have any turn up at Helm's Deep? Oh... he's probably saved them up for TH.... There are going to be dwarves in The Hobbit Movie, aren't there? Oh I sincerely hope so!

Odo

[Gandalfs Beard]

Maybe even Shirtless Dwarfs .

GB

[Odo Banks]

Knowing now what I know about those Dwarves (or Dwarfs), I hope there will be!

Odo

[Eldorion]

Being a Tolkien fan I am a firm proponent of the spelling dwarves, whatever the pedants at publishing houses and dictionaries might think.

(When The Lord of the Rings was being prepared for publication the typesetters changed a number of Tolkien's spellings, including dwarves > dwarfs and elves > elfs; much to Tolkien's displeasure!)

[Gandalfs Beard]

Actually Tolkien preferred the spelling Dwarfs, I'm not certain about whether he preferred Elfs or Elves. I generally spell it Dwarves, but then I figured seeing as i am posting on a Tolkien forum I ought to use his preferred spelling (ya know, being a "purist" and all ).

GB

[Eldorion]

I didn't actually know that, GB; I took a brief glance at the Letters but I'll need to read more in-depth when I'm not so tired. I wonder why he used 'dwarves' in his books though.... Perhaps the answer awaits me in one of the letters. I'm so used to 'dwarves' though, 'dwarfs' feels awkward on my tongue.