Published on: 10th December, 2009
Peter Jackson has told MTV that he only sees a return to Middle Earth for 3 of the original Lord of the Rings cast.
It’s been known for sometime that Sir Ian McKellen will return to his role as Gandalf but Jackson says he also expects Cate Blanchett to return as Galadriel and Hugo Weaving as Elrond.
“They are Elves, so once again, in the realm of Middle-earth, they’re immortal, they don’t age,” he told MTV when asked about returning actors. “We have a process that would start with showing them the script. We’re not [beginning] any official process until we have the ‘official’ script that they can read.”
“In some respects, it’s a prequel. In book terms, the world of ‘The Hobbit’ takes place 60 years before ‘The Lord of the Rings,’ as it was written by Tolkien. So, not a lot of the characters actually feature, because they weren’t around yet.”
I imagine Andy Serkis just slipped his mind……hopefully
Source: MTV
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There’s no way that Andy Serkis wouldn’t be asked back - with all of the work they put in on creating Gollum in the first place, they HAVE to use his voice in The Hobbit.
This article says only 3 original members are returning, but they’d better not leave him out…
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Did you know that Jedward from the X factor may be playing the twin dwarfs in the hobbit?
I am not lying, its on the news.
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Lee Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:25 am
@simon, I heard this too. I am praying to the gods that it is Peter Jackson’s idea of a joke because I’d rather have Rowan Atkinson playing Bilbo than this. It would be an insult to Tolkien, an unpredictable mess of what could be a brilliant movie and just make a mockery of serious modern film. I wouldn’t even watch a trailer to the film!
I’m almost positive that Andy Serkis will be included - he has publicly said he wants to return to his role as Gollum. Who else COULD they use?
If they were to include Jedward and not Andy Serkis, perhaps they should have Lou Walsh star as Gollum.
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The Hobbit Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
@simon, That report comes from the UK’s Sun newspaper which is why i didn’t do an official post on the story. Its probably just Louis Walsh trying to stir up more interest.
I’m pretty sure Serkis just slipped his mind. The actor has already let slip he’s been approached some time ago.
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Digit23 Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Those boys with horrid haircuts and faces of 14 year olds? HELL NO!!!
Wait…Jackson is possessed! Yes, that must be it!
Someone, call an exorcist! Before it’s too late!
(Just kidding)
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I believe that Jackson just forgot to mentioned Serkis that’s all. Old age you know.
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It’s really quite amusing that Sir Ian McKellen was on board from the very start. His enthusiasm for the role of Gandalf and all that goes with it is impressive. The fact that these other actors aren’t even going to be approached until the script is done is evidence enough of that. By the looks of it, he’s forced his way in with staff in hand! xD
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The Hobbit Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 11:46 am
@Jasmin, He’s certainly been the most vocal
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But Galadriel wasn’t in the Hobbit and Elrond had only a bit part.
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Eldorion Reply:
December 14th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
@Lance, PJ has made it clear he wants to “expand” The Hobbit to include more of Middle-earth, presumably the White Council/Dol Guldur events that Gandalf went off to. I’d imagine Galadriel (and possibly Elrond too) will be involved with those.
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Galadriel actually does have a major part to play inthe Hobbit - we just don’t actually see it happen in the book but are told about it after the fact. Galadriel is part of the White Council that chases Sauron the Necromancer from Dol Guldur in Mirkwood, an event that occurs during the events of the Hobbit. As Eldorion states, the White Council is comprised of Galadriel, Elrond, Gandalf, Saruman and Radaghast (amongst others). The films will be covering this and so these characters/actors will be needed. What happens only as a side issue away from the action in the book - little more than an excuse to get Gandalf out of the narrative - could/should surely become a main feature in the movies. Personally I would welcome this since it is actually such a major event.
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Eldorion Reply:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:17 am
@Ceylerion, the events surrounding the White Council are not part of The Hobbit. Therefore, no, Galadriel does not play _any_ role in The Hobbit, major or minor. In the book when Gandalf goes away we don’t heart from him again until he shows up near the end. There is only a brief and very vague mention of his business with the Necromancer. That the films will cover the White Council does not mean that the White Council is part of the _true_ version of The Hobbit - the book.
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I like the word “actually” far too much. Sorry about that. Actually.
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As I have said elsewhere, we are here verging into the tricky area of the purists and what does and does not belong.
The LOTR movies jumped back in time to show us the Last Alliance of Elves and Men 3000 years before, showed us Smeagol’s fall and corruption 500 years before and showed us Aragorn’s death and Arwen’s mourning ove a hundred years AFTER. If the Hobbit also decides to “expand” the story in such a way then we may well see plenty that isn’t inthe story proper.
Personally I would welcome such expansions. The Hobbit after all can be perceived as a kind of introduction to LOTR (they are very clearly linked after all) and there are many events that are influential to the War of the Ring that occur around or just after the Hobbit. For me the banishment of Sauron from Dol Gulur - that was happening at the same time as the Erebor Quest - is the most obvious no brainer, especially as it involves Gandalf. Gandalf after all IS also in the Hobbit story - so there is a real link there between the two events. Should the film makers wish to go there and properly “explain” what he was doing when he was dissapearing then we WIL see the White Council, and Dol guldur -a nd of course Galadriel, as well as more of Elrond and even Radaghast and Saruman.
But if you wish the Hobbit story to stand alone as a single story without context to the world around it or without mentioning the events transpiring at the same time… if to you these aren’t relevant to The Hobbit story then, yes I can see why those that think that way would have a problem.
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Do you accept then that since the filmmakers are expanding the story by including things such as the White Council that these things are not part of the story? Because even though Gandalf is in both the story of The Hobbit and the events of the White Council they are no more the same story than TH and TLotR are the same story because they share some characters.
In the realm of personal opinion, I would rather they do what they purport to do by way of the title of the films and make an adaptation of TH instead of a general prequel to TLotR which seems to be the way they’re going.
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It’s a tricky question.
Gandalf dissapearing IS part of the story. He drags Bilbo out of his comfortable hole and then buggers off leaving Bilbo to fend for himself. It’s to do with Bilbo’s growth as a character and what Gandalf is up to is completely irrelevant - in terms of the psychological journey that we take with Bilbo it’s even arguably important that we don’t know what happened to our avuncular protector.
However, in terms of the films we now know alot about Gandalf, Sauron etc, these are no longer peripheral characters - having gone through the epic journey with them there will be interest in seeing their back story - and who is going to
complain about having more of middle-earth
realised ?
You will notice I have mixed up those who read the books first and those who saw the films first and may not have read the books - BOTH have now the same possible reason for wanting more our of the Hobbit.
But it has to be said, if somebody asked me where to start in all this, I would say above all READ the hobbit first. For the reverse reasons above, part of the pleasure and purpose of TLOTR is the expansion of middle-earth and it’s characters.
Maybe the answer is to have a ‘Tolkiens Cut’ …
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I think the addition of Dol Guldar seems like a great Idea from what I read in the Silmarillion that is the whole reason Gandalf came to Middle Earth
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Let us also remember that Gandalf’s real motive for becoming embroiled in what is essentially a dwarven treasure hunt was very much tied up with his strategic planning against Sauron. Tolkien tells us in The Unfinished Tales that Gandalf recognised the potentially catastrophic consequences of a re-emergent Sauron getting his hands on a WMD - no, not the One Ring in this instance, but Smaug. Remember the devestation wreaked by the dragons in the Battle of Nirnaeth Arnoediad? One of Gandalf’s intentions in The Hobbit, is the elimination of Smaug before Sauron can strike an alliance with him. This would surely be part of the White Council’s deliberations. I for one want to see it. But, oh, can we please have Christopher Lee back?
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I second that notion. The only way they can have the White Council present in the movie is if you have Christopher Lee as Saruman. I also agree with the rest of your comment. lol
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Lest we forget, the books of lost tales & the silmarillion were tolkiens way of trying to get our mortal heads around his incredible world. And as such, I think it would delight him that some ‘extras’ are added to the Hobbit to help us understand his vision. As much as he’d have been dismayed at the omitted parts in the lotr films. Remember there are to be two films ! plenty of room for expansion but NO NO NO new carachters ! especially no more attempts at portaying the elven women ! Be true pj & gdt, were trusting you and tolkien is watching !!
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One thing that’s always bothered me was how Bilbo was able to wear the ring so much in the Hobbit. He wears it for an extended period of time in mirkwood and that’s strange to me, because Dol Guldur is in mirkwood. So how come Sauron wouldn’t know that the ring is so close to him?
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