Comments on: John Rhys-Davies Says No To The Hobbit Movie http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/ News and gossip surrounding the hobbit movies Wed, 23 Mar 2011 06:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Hobbit Fanhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-3904 The Hobbit Fan Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:52:11 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-3904 Part Two of the film should end with Gandalf riding in his horse drawn cart into the Shire. Part Two ends right where Fellowship begins. Part Two of the film should end with Gandalf riding in his horse drawn cart into the Shire. Part Two ends right where Fellowship begins.

]]> By: Luluhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-2477 Lulu Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:41:39 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-2477 too right he's too broad-shouldered and bulky to play an elf !! too right he’s too broad-shouldered and bulky to play an elf !!

]]> By: Sauromanhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-2245 Sauroman Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:36:56 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-2245 How can you say that this is bad news! Gimli is not in the story!!! So it is not possible for him to play that role. And I can not se him as a Elf he dont have the body for that. How can you say that this is bad news!
Gimli is not in the story!!! So it is not possible for him to play that role. And I can not se him as a Elf he dont have the body for that.

]]> By: Ceylerionhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1791 Ceylerion Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:02:47 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-1791 That depends on what you call "timeframe". While I grant Aragorn was too young for the actual Hobbit story itself, he would have been old enough - and was active - just sixteen years later. Bare in mind that the events of LOTR take place either over a period of twenty odd years in the book - taking Bilbo leaving the Shire as the "start". The LOTR movies jump about even more, with a beginning a full three thousand years(!) before the story proper (the Last Alliance of elves and Men) with further jumps back in time to show Smeagol's fall and jumps FORWARD to show Aragorn's passing along the way. The Hobbit movie might make similar jumps in time to expand the narrative. The makers of the Hobbit have indeed expressed a wish to "expand" on the Hobbit and show us events around it. So you never know. If for instance, they wish to show us the first encounter between Gandalf and Aragorn fourteen years after the Hobbit, then we may well see him (interestingly Aragorn becomes active as Thorongil just the very next year - what DID Gandalf say to him? ;) ) OR if the filmmkaers want to show us a bit of what happened to Smeagol in those intervening seventy odd years betweem the Hobbit and the War of the Ring, then again, Aragorn may make an appearance, but I grant that second case is far less likely. That depends on what you call “timeframe”. While I grant Aragorn was too young for the actual Hobbit story itself, he would have been old enough – and was active – just sixteen years later.

Bare in mind that the events of LOTR take place either over a period of twenty odd years in the book – taking Bilbo leaving the Shire as the “start”. The LOTR movies jump about even more, with a beginning a full three thousand years(!) before the story proper (the Last Alliance of elves and Men) with further jumps back in time to show Smeagol’s fall and jumps FORWARD to show Aragorn’s passing along the way.

The Hobbit movie might make similar jumps in time to expand the narrative. The makers of the Hobbit have indeed expressed a wish to “expand” on the Hobbit and show us events around it. So you never know.

If for instance, they wish to show us the first encounter between Gandalf and Aragorn fourteen years after the Hobbit, then we may well see him (interestingly Aragorn becomes active as Thorongil just the very next year – what DID Gandalf say to him? ;) )

OR if the filmmkaers want to show us a bit of what happened to Smeagol in those intervening seventy odd years betweem the Hobbit and the War of the Ring, then again, Aragorn may make an appearance, but I grant that second case is far less likely.

]]> By: Eldorionhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1788 Eldorion Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:21:06 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-1788 @Ceylerion, while I agree with most of your points, I'd like to point out that Aragorn has no role in The Hobbit _or_ anything else going on in that timeframe. He was only 10 years old and was just growing up in Imladris. ;) @Ceylerion, while I agree with most of your points, I’d like to point out that Aragorn has no role in The Hobbit _or_ anything else going on in that timeframe. He was only 10 years old and was just growing up in Imladris. ;)

]]> By: Ceylerionhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1785 Ceylerion Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:22:07 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-1785 Its not the action, the role or the acting that is stopping him from returning - its the makeup. John Rhys-Davies had a very nasty allergic reaction to his dwarf makeup during LOTR, and throughout filming he was in considerable discomfort and pain. If you look very carefully you can see in some shots where his face has swollen up. For the sake of his part/job he endured it - it was after all a dream come true once in a lifetime opportunity - but it was a nightmare for him. John Rhys-Davies loved being chosen, was honoured to do it and I am sure the experience is one he will treasure. But Mr Davies is in no rush to repeat his ordeal and frankly,considering what he went through, who can blame him? And yes, he's a great guy. I've met him three times and he's always got something nice and encouraging to say, is always full of life. A great man. But anyway, Gimli isn't in the Hobbit and doesn't feature in any of the canon side events around it. Unlike Saruman, Gandalf, Radaghast, Elrond, Galadriel, Aragorn and of course Gollum who DO feature in or around the Hobbit, there is no Legolas and no Gimili. The Fellowship of the Ring is the first time they actively enter events. On the other hand, Gloin, (Gimili's Father), and Thranduil the Elfking, (Father of Legolas), are very much major players... Its not the action, the role or the acting that is stopping him from returning – its the makeup. John Rhys-Davies had a very nasty allergic reaction to his dwarf makeup during LOTR, and throughout filming he was in considerable discomfort and pain. If you look very carefully you can see in some shots where his face has swollen up. For the sake of his part/job he endured it – it was after all a dream come true once in a lifetime opportunity – but it was a nightmare for him.

John Rhys-Davies loved being chosen, was honoured to do it and I am sure the experience is one he will treasure. But Mr Davies is in no rush to repeat his ordeal and frankly,considering what he went through, who can blame him?

And yes, he’s a great guy. I’ve met him three times and he’s always got something nice and encouraging to say, is always full of life. A great man.

But anyway, Gimli isn’t in the Hobbit and doesn’t feature in any of the canon side events around it. Unlike Saruman, Gandalf, Radaghast, Elrond, Galadriel, Aragorn and of course Gollum who DO feature in or around the Hobbit, there is no Legolas and no Gimili. The Fellowship of the Ring is the first time they actively enter events.

On the other hand, Gloin, (Gimili’s Father), and Thranduil the Elfking, (Father of Legolas), are very much major players…

]]> By: Gracehttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1774 Grace Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:33:26 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-1774 Aww, come on, he's the most funniest and cutest little man on earth! Aww, come on, he’s the most funniest and cutest little man on earth!

]]> By: Jonhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1745 Jon Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:28:57 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-1745 The Gimli of the movies, that is... >.o The Gimli of the movies, that is… >.o

]]> By: Jonhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1743 Jon Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:05:21 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-1743 John Rhys-Davies' role as Gimli was class, but let's not forget that a lot of Gimli's time onscreen - if I'm not mistaken - was played by his scale double Brett Beattie. I'm sure with a few tweaks here and there Rhys-Davies could provide his distinctive voice for Gimli in the prequel to the Fellowship, and somebody could suffer the prosthetic change and be our onscreen much-loved dwarf. I'm pretty sure after so much ADR in the first three films, Jackson and co. could easily make it work... and work well. Seems like a the best option to me. I'm sure Rhys-Davies would be very keen to do it, too. The Gimli of the film world is his character, and Gimli wouldn't be Gimli without his voice. John Rhys-Davies’ role as Gimli was class, but let’s not forget that a lot of Gimli’s time onscreen – if I’m not mistaken – was played by his scale double Brett Beattie.

I’m sure with a few tweaks here and there Rhys-Davies could provide his distinctive voice for Gimli in the prequel to the Fellowship, and somebody could suffer the prosthetic change and be our onscreen much-loved dwarf.

I’m pretty sure after so much ADR in the first three films, Jackson and co. could easily make it work… and work well. Seems like a the best option to me. I’m sure Rhys-Davies would be very keen to do it, too. The Gimli of the film world is his character, and Gimli wouldn’t be Gimli without his voice.

]]> By: Laurahttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1723 Laura Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:41:52 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-1723 Oh, that's so sad! I loved him as Gimli; but I guess the voice did the most for me.. I know that he actually did not act as much as his stand-in did, because he's a man of 180 cm. I hope, and I'm sure, they can find a fulfilling actor - especially cause he'd have to be covered in make-up anyway - but it's still heartbreaking to hear we wont get the right Gimli back again. Oh, that’s so sad! I loved him as Gimli; but I guess the voice did the most for me.. I know that he actually did not act as much as his stand-in did, because he’s a man of 180 cm. I hope, and I’m sure, they can find a fulfilling actor – especially cause he’d have to be covered in make-up anyway – but it’s still heartbreaking to hear we wont get the right Gimli back again.

]]> By: Roxanna Hansenhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1711 Roxanna Hansen Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:21:09 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-1711 OH no, that is so very heartbreaking to hear. He was such a terrfic Gimli, I doubt you would find anyone else better:( my 10 year old son is a big fan of Gimli, he even brought gimli costume for holloween and has many gilmi soveniers. ITs sad to hear that he doesn't want to play the part just because he doesn't want to go through the make-up process, theirs many of other things that are worse in this world. Be thankfull of what you have. Think of your devoted fans. WIthout John Rhys Davies,, theirs no Gilmi:( Please reconsider.. Devoted fan in Candada... OH no, that is so very heartbreaking to hear. He was such a terrfic Gimli, I doubt you would find anyone else better:( my 10 year old son is a big fan of Gimli, he even brought gimli costume for holloween and has many gilmi soveniers. ITs sad to hear that he doesn’t want to play the part just because he doesn’t want to go through the make-up process, theirs many of other things that are worse in this world. Be thankfull of what you have. Think of your devoted fans. WIthout John Rhys Davies,, theirs no Gilmi:( Please reconsider..
Devoted fan in Candada…

]]> By: The Hobbit Movie - Hobbit Movie Updatehttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1667 The Hobbit Movie - Hobbit Movie Update Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:50:40 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-1667 [...] John Rhys-Davies only last month said he had been approached but had said ‘no thanks’ to a return to Middle Earth as has Christopher Lee. [...] [...] John Rhys-Davies only last month said he had been approached but had said ‘no thanks’ to a return to Middle Earth as has Christopher Lee. [...]

]]> By: thaMChttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2009/10/30/john-rhys-davies-hobbit-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1661 thaMC Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:19:16 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/?p=269#comment-1661 This may turn out to be bad news. This may turn out to be bad news.

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