1. Wild says:

   April 18, 2009 at 5:04 pm

   We’ve known that they’re making two movies for months.(sigh) Even though it’s a lousy idea. The hobbit SHOULD NOT be like the LOTR trigolgy. The whole story has a vastly different feel and they should adhere to the book and Tolkien’s orginal vision not their own ideas here.

   Thanks guys, I know you try and get us all the info there is. I just don’t think there’s much out there. by the way, does anyone know if they’re actually working on production? because some people seem to think they’ve gotten through the lawsuit but I don’t see much happening. My gut says that the lawsuits are probably still ongoing. Stuff like that is never quick.

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   seank Reply:
   June 28th, 2009 at 5:20 am

   I’ve said my piece on several forums and I hope I am not alone:
   THe Hobbit into 2 movies is fine with these caveats:
   DT should not take liberties in the story for the 2nd movie as a prequel. Instead: The first movie should climax at Dol Guldur conquest. The story shifting to Gandalf’s storyline after the Trolls to when he departs. Bilbo is left with Beorn then starting off towards Mirkwood trail. THen movie 2 pics up (like Two Towers movie). The second hobbit movie will then climax at the proper place: smaug, battle of 5 armies, and goblin attack. etc. Its perfect in tolkiens story because dol goldur is where sauron is defeated in human form and sent into the ether. Galadriel/Celeborn/Elrond are all there with Gandalf. You can also show the choosing of Sauroman. Its perfect ending to a 1 st movie.
   Just my suggestion…

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   Jeremiah Reply:
   August 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

   @seank, And a great suggestion it is! let us trust the film makers.

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2. White wizard says:

   April 18, 2009 at 5:56 pm

   I am very happy about the fact, that the White Council and Dol Guldur will be in the movie, because these two events are very important. The Hobbit really should not be like the Lord of the Rings, but some things must stay the same. For example places, that were in LOTR - Hobbiton, Rivendell and the appearance of hobbits, elves…
   I just hope, that they will follow the story in the book and will not make big changes.

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3. ady says:

   April 19, 2009 at 2:46 pm

   Wild, we’ve known for months they were to make The Hobbit and a bridging movie to fill in the gaps from the end of The Hobbit and the start of The Fellowship.

   The news that they have changed their minds and are now to make The Hobbit over 2 movies is brand new.

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4. Gandalfs Beard says:

   April 19, 2009 at 11:06 pm

   This means that what I have been predicting as the main focus of film 2 has now been verified. It always seemed that the most logical approach would be to focus on the White Council and the events that lead Gandalf to meet up with Bilbo and the Dwarves in time for the Battle of Five Armies.

   If Jackson thinks he’s got a shot at resolving the Tolkien lawsuit, he may hold out hope of filming a bridging movie.

   Otherwise, a montage at the end of the second Hobbit film could “bridge” the gap.

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5. dontjackit says:

   April 20, 2009 at 1:44 pm

   Well it’s about time that Del Toro and Jackson tell us what’s going on and the two movie concept might end up being a good idea - less chance (or excuses) of “we had to cut out such and such” due to “movie length” issues. The montage mentioned by Gandalfs Beard above sounds like a good idea too and allows the production to have their huge “money maker” actors (I’m sure this is very high on their agenda) back to make another appearance. However fortunately, I see the “tide” turning a bit about people’s feelings about what should be “going” into the films - mainly them being closer to the book - which I hope the feedback from all the postings on this web site can (or is somehow) being passed on to the Hobbit movie production team - Ady weave your magic!

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6. Gabriela says:

   April 21, 2009 at 5:46 am

   I don’t understand why this is taking soooo long!!! Why is it so much trouble casting and producing this great possible movie!!! ugh…i don’t get it! This is a great opportunity to bring the best and beginning part of the tale, get with it!!! I should be cast in the movie!!!

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7. Frustrated says:

   April 23, 2009 at 3:27 pm

   Why even bother with a “bridging” movie, there is no need. I wish they’d just put all their attention and focus on making the Hobbit and be done with it. If Tolkien didn’t write a “bridging” book there is no need for a “bridging” movie.

   IMO, this is all just a ploy to make more money. And when you make the project about the money and not the story you get the Lucas effect. We all know how TERRIBLE the new Star Wars movies were. Let’s not make this same mistake.

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8. Ian says:

   April 26, 2009 at 11:55 am

   I’m totally happy with this. To movie-fy the original book and expand Gandalf’s adventures and the White Council is brilliant. I hope though that this is as small extras to expand on what’s going on behind the scenes, not massive plot chunks. There’s plenty in the Hobbit as it stands that could be illustrated more richly than in the book if necessary. I hope Aragorn reappears even if only as an advisor to the council or something. That’d be cool.

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   mark Reply:
   July 10th, 2009 at 12:16 am

   I hope the they make the Hobbit as close to the book as possible. After that I think it would be cool to have a bridging movie or two. I would love for them to follow Aragorn’s story from the time he learned his true identity from Elrond and he went into the wilderness, wandered, met Gandalf, wandered more, tracked and captured Gollum, wandered more, etc. his adventures alone could fill at least one whole movie

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9. Simon says:

   May 7, 2009 at 2:04 pm

   I just hope that they don’t use time or money reasons to cut out chunks of the book, The Hobbit is a beautiful and complete story in itself and should be filmed following the book accurately and fully, I don’t mind the idea of an extra bit to take the story gently and smoothly into L.O.T.R. and if it needs two films to achieve all of this properly then that is surely better than an attempt to cram everthing into one film and mucking it up!!! I’m looking forward to the films and hoping they do the story full justice!!!

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10. David says:

    May 8, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Anything that brings more Middle Earth to the big screen gets a big thumbs up from me. I think a bridging movie is an excellent idea and also should help people less interested in reading the books with a better understanding of what’s going on. After all, the lore does exists; ok it’s not formulated into a book of it’s own but it exists in published form none-the-less. The trilogy didn’t have the scope to include it, this does.
    The two movies should be complete with their own beginning and end and on seperate discs, then naturally what we choose to watch is up to us.

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11. lotrking says:

    May 10, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    yo if y’all cur i think that yes they should go along with the hobbit mivi as planed, but cut out the bridge thing altogether, why would anyone in there right mind want that, sure it brings more material, but if the ar not bein releasd even in the same year it is an abslute travesty to cut THE BEST SINGLE BOOK OF ALL TIME into two movies. i dont no if yis alls read th eragon books, i have, but paolinis idea to cut the third book into to parts was frusterating. again it bings mor materyal, but also that not a classic and can and should be cut to give the effect

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12. Radagast the Brown says:

    May 11, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Sup guys…

    Here’s my outline of the Hobbit as 2 movies…(please excuse the length of this post…I’m very bored today)

    Opening scene: prologue showing the dwarves in the Lonely Mountain and the men of Dale. Shows how Smaug appears and destroys Erebor and Dale. The screen is wreathed in flame from Smaug and it goes black. The film opens up on Hobbiton with the Shire theme playing and the camera stops on Bilbo smoking his pipe on the front porch. Gandalf arrives. Soon later the dwarves arrive and Bilbo is rushed off on this journey the next day. (you gotta have Bilbo sleeping in and being late of course)

    -Bilbo and the dwarves are shown on their long wet journey (hopefully not too long or it would slow the story dramatically). It’s introduced that Gandalf comes and goes whenever he wants.

    -Troll scene…Bilbo sneaks up and tries to steal some meat…but gets caught…i think they should keep the way the dwarves are caught just like the book, where they sneak up one by one to the troll camp and are caught one by one (I think that would be rather hilarious). Gandalf comes and recues them. Gandalf, Thorin and Bilbo find their swords.

    -More of their journey to Rivendell…they are lost in the caves and captured by the goblins (hopefully like the Moria orcs from FotR) Gandalf saves the day again and the “fellowship” runs. Bilbo lost in the tunnels finds Gollum and wins the riddle game, finds the ring, and follows Gollum out of the tunnels.

    Ok i never realized it would take this long to compose this so im just gonna summarize from here on…(thanks to all u hardcore fans who r still reading this right now)

    -The fellowship is attacked by wargs and goblins and saved by the eagles…flown to the other side of the Misty Mountains and makes their way to Beorns house…u gotta have him in the movie. This would be a good spot to end the 1st movie…PJ and GDT could make the goblin fight in the caves and the warg and goblin attack massive battle sequences, with the latter being a huge climax when the eagles arrive and save the day.

    -picking up righ where we left off in Beorns house…fellowship journeys through Mirkwood without Gandalf and is attacked by Spiders and Bilbo saves them. Dwarves r captured by Elves and Bilbo once again saves them.

    -Fellowship reaches Laketown and journeys to Lonely Mountain…finds the secret door and slays Smaug..

    -Battle of the Five armies the big climax of the 2nd movie

    -Closing scene: Bilbo returning to Hobbiton on his pony with his treasure with his ring in his pocket with the music from the end of RotK playing…the screen fades to black with The End and some masterpiece scoring from Howard Shore…

    WHEW!!

    Thanks for reading any hardcore fans who are STILL reading…. THANKS

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    Thorin Reply:
    November 28th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    I like that a lot, well done… hopefully the script writers are thinking along the same lines…

    I really like the idea of ending the first movie shortly after the battle with the goblins and wargs…

    I think that in the movie they won’t have Bard killing smaug, as that would mean introducing another whole character and would probably confuse anyone who hasn’t read the book…

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13. Light Of Earendil says:

    May 13, 2009 at 4:34 am

    Being from México, I’m very proud a Mexican director is going to do these films. I can’t wait…

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14. Gandalf says:

    May 14, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Its ridiculous that they wanna make 2 movies out of 1 great story,

    I had totally different feeling reading THE HOBBIT and LOTR. they must NOT combine LOTR and the hobbit.. cuzz its just DIFFERENT.. and dont CUT a story in 2 pieces !!! a waste !

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15. Fingolfin says:

    May 23, 2009 at 7:43 am

    I don’t think that the two movies is a bad idea. I also don’t think that they’re intending on making this ‘another LotR’ trilogy either. Movies always cut out large parts of books simply because they don’t have the time to show it on screen - wouldn’t you rather they stay as true to the book as possible and allow as much of the story to be shown??? Sure, I had the idea of having to wait for the second half to come out, but these guys aren’t Stanley Kubrick, so we’re unlikely to see a 5 hour movie with an interval. I think people who really want this movie to be good should be happy about this move.

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16. lotrking says:

    May 25, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    This is all dumb they are going to simply make us wait for a whole other movie. Its just a scheme to get money.

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17. HobbitsWeed says:

    May 26, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Ok first of all,I can’t begin to understand why everyone is upset about 2 movies? If you cut the hobbit short to one movie, then its going to be flawed, if you watched the original animated hobbit movie, it was extremely broken. The choice is. do you want to see ONE movie thats 3 hours long, and rushed to fit a massive plotline into a mesely 3 hours for an epic tale, or would you prefer 2-3 possible movies with 3 hours each that mean a possible 6-9 hours of more middle earth!

    Personally I felt the animated hobbit was to rushed, and the the battle of five armies should have been its own tale.
    Secondly i’d love to see more gaps filled in, and why not make a third movie? Theirs so much Tolkien background to pull from you could easily make a third movie.
    I for one am totaly for 3 movies and for those who complain about getting a fragmeneted story, well then don’t pay to go see it. Its that simple if all your going to do is bicker and fuss then dont worry yourself over it, peter jackson isnt pointing a gun to our heads saying “GO SEE THE NEW HOBBIT MOVIE” no infact i beleive alot of die hard fans are pleading “Please make more movie involving middle earth!”

    weve already waited 60 years for a hobbit movie, whats so bad about a movie being released and then a guaranteed second part realeased a year later? and maybe a third year the next? I say keep em coming boys as long as we have directors and cast that are true to the story and passionate about middle earth and tolkiens work then we should have good movies!

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18. Stephen says:

    June 4, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    This 2 movie idea makes no sense what so ever. It’s one novel so make one film. I’d rather see a ‘measly’ three or four hour version of the story rather than see it carved up into a bombastic unrelated story for Hollywood to make a big fat profit on. I can think of about ten different condensed versions of the story complete with all the characters and still as faithful as ever.
    Just for the record ‘HobbitsWeed’ there are many ‘die hard fans’ of Tolkien’s work hoping it wont be continuosly butchered by ‘middle-earth movies’. Are there any real fans of Tolkien’s work among you guys who’ve supposedly read his other works or are you ‘fans’ who love the Peter Jackson movies and never bothered to open your minds to J.R.R. Tolkien’s legendarium (if you understand what that is). You come to see Orlando Bloom slide down a stairway on a shield or John Rhys Davies and Billy Boyd and Dominic Monaghan twist the characters of Gimli, Merry and Pippin into disgusting comical shadows of their former selves. Open question: Have you or will you ever read The Silmarillion, The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrun or Farmer Giles of Ham? They’re not all about elves and dwarves but they’re all by the same great author of Lord of the Rings none the less.
    The majority of you people are just hypocrites and fans of a movie trilogy dumbed down to accomodate your inferior intellect. You’re not fans of Tolkien you’re all fans of Peter Jackson’ poor movie adaptations.

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19. Eva says:

    June 6, 2009 at 3:00 am

    Peter Jackson is a very talented man. He brought LOTR to us in a format that most everyone could understand and follow.

    Everything in the movies was breathtaking, from the casting, to the score, to the cinematography… the scenery, you name it.

    I for one have not read ANY of the Tolkien writings, though I have sat down numerous times to read one or the other, but have quit after a page or two. The class-assigned Tolkien books in high school were better used as my pillows to watch TV.

    Jackson brought the GREAT story to people like me, non-Tolkienites, and I cannot see anyone else delivering the same quality and style to The Hobbit movie.

    I saw Del Toro’s “Pan’s Laberynth,” and it was an awesome movie. This makes me think that there is hope, that maybe Del Toro will be okay as director of The Hobbit.

    But, looking back at Pan’s Laberynth, the “Fauno” in his movie looked QUITE fake (just like Hellboy.) Also, the cinematography was not that great, the movie had the feel of a “homemade” movie.

    Pan’s Laberynth casting must not have exceeded 50 people, including the soldiers in the war. Will Del Toro be able to manage the numbers needed for The Hobbit movie?

    I do feel that Jackson should’ve been first pick for the job, and that it must’ve been some legal, personal, or managerial conflict that landed Del Toro the job.

    If I were the top honchos of Warner/New Line, I would put all animosities aside, and kiss-up to Peter.

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    Cher Reply:
    June 7th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    3 movies is a great idea in my book; having read all the published Tolkien books and slugging my way through SIL, I too believe there is more than enough written material out there to do a great 2 piece Hobbit movie and then a 3rd bridging movie. Do it right, and the more screen time we have of Middle Earth, the better for us fans. Who cares how much money they make, give me something to watch, bring my dream world to LIFE!!!

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20. Arwen Evenstar says:

    June 8, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    OK, I have mixed feelings about there being two movies. I think they really could have fit it into one, and it would have been really cool, but the info with Gandalf and theWhite Council will be really interesting. So, I think Radagast the Brown’s summary is really good, except for a few things. They say there’s going to be more background info on Gandalf and the White Council, and I have a hunch it’s going to be more than a minor part. So, I think they should have them talking about and actually kicking Sauron ( or, as he’s called in The Hobbit, the Necromancer) out of Mirkwood before Thorin and Company travel through it. Then at the end they could show Sauron slinking into Mordor as a kind of preface to Lord of the Rings. Also, at the end one of my favorite parts in the whole book is when Bilbo goes back and they’re auctioning off all of his stuff. They probably won’t leave that in, because in RotK they didn’t leave in the part where Saruman, aka”Sharkey” takes over the Shire. that was actually one of my favorite parts because Frodo, Sam, and especially Merry and Pippin get to show off being heroes in the Shire. Anyway, I really wish they would leave the end part in there. I just think it would be a funny ending, with Bilbo rushing to get all his stuff back and then sitting down in an exasperated huff. Well, whatever they do with the movie, they need to hurry! Has anyone heard anything about trailers, release dates…?

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21. Rat-ta-tat-gast says:

    June 19, 2009 at 1:39 am

    I hope they do not leave out important elements like oh like LOTR’s…Tom Bombadill or SCOURING OF THE SHIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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22. Anonymous says:

    July 11, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    if they leave out parts in this i will be so anoyed, its like them leaving out the ending of lotr where they have to recapture the shire

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23. Jake says:

    July 14, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    My hopes are that this two-part hobbit episode starts with Gandalf relating to the White Council that he has journeyed to Dol Guldur and found out that it’s Sauron and the need to strike. Show scenes of him using magic and skill to escape. Saruman says no, the times is not right. Arguing ensues.

    Later Elrond and Gandalf are talking, wondering why Saruman wants to delay, Elrond mentions the dragon and how Sauron might use him. Gandalf says he may have an answer, and it involves the last King under the Mountain. Elrond says Dwarves cannot answer the dragon, and Gandalf says maybe something else can.

    Then show the Shire, show the title: The Hobbit. Show Gandalf talking to other hobbits until he spies Bilbo and begins their conversation. During the unexpected party have a flashback to the ruin of the Dale and Mountain, without showing the dragon.

    Rest of the film proceeds up to the moment when Gandalf leaves at the Mirkwood. However, I would have the dwarves be attacked on last time right before they’re about to go to the Forest, with Bilbo showing true valor for the first time in the fight and Beorn coming ot the rescue. Then a brief parting and a climax moment.

    Movie two: Gandalf is again before the council. He and Galadriel persuade the others to attack Dol Guldur. Intercut the journey of the dwarves with the cleansing of Dol Guldur, and have Gandalf set out about the time Thorin and company set out for the Mountain from Laketown. Play out events like the book.

    However, end the movie in the House of Elrond. Have Elrond congratulating Gandalf on “solving” the dragon and Sauron. Gandalf says it may be so, bet he fears their real peril may have only increased. End with shots of Bilbo asleep whispering and troubled and the fires of Mordor, and finally Bilbo whispers precious as he clutches his ring, and the as he does so the Eye makes its first appearance.

    This in my opinion sets up the Fellowship perfectly.

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24. Eva says:

    August 11, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    I would end the movie with a scene of a MUCH younger Aragorn and Arwen meeting…

    Or of the four young hobbits being born… they should look like… umm… puppies.

    Or of what Gandalf REALLY does when he’s “away”…

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26. Slinker says:

    October 14, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    There are many chapters of material about how Gandalf obtained the Moon-rune map, met Thorin at the Prancing Pony, decided on getting a Hobbit involved as well as Bilbo’s family history (the Took clan)and history of the shire. Will the poetry be included in the movie? J.R.R. Tolkien himself makes it a point to say that the Hobbit is very much of a different type of story than the L.O.T.R. trilogy. The Hobbit story sings!!!

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27. Greyghost says:

    November 12, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    I am just grateful that that they decided to make the Hobbit.I look forward to see the creativity and the words that will be spoken.I luv the craftsmanship of WETA,CGI,leather metal,wood working.Its good to see that we still need ppl like that in the world today.Not to mention the the way the speak(Elizabethan)you must think before you speak unlike today!!!!

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28. ragtag says:

    December 6, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    How about Hugh O’Conner as Bilbo.

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29. Bilbo says:

    January 24, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    I feel like everyone complaining about the fact that it’s being split up into 2 movies couldn’t possibly be real die-hard fans of the Hobbit. If you were a true fan of the book, you would want the movie/movies to be as true to the book as possible and want it to be the best it could possibly be, which can’t possibly happen with one movie. Yes, perhaps part of the reason for 2 movies is money, but we all know PJ and are aware that he’s a true Tolkein fan and is committed to staying as true to the story as possible, and one 3-hour long movie just isn’t enough to fit in all the details true fans would love to see on screen. I say make as many different movies as you’d like as long as the result is a big-screen version of the tale we all love so much. I mean…look at the Harry Potter movies - they always try fitting those books into one movie and they turn out terribly and fans are always disgruntled with the fact that they’re not at all true to the books. Just be happy that we have someone who is so willing to make the best movie possible for the fans.

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