Comments on: An Unexpected Party http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/ News and gossip surrounding the hobbit movies Wed, 23 Mar 2011 06:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Bradhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/comment-page-1/#comment-879 Brad Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:47:41 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/#comment-879 How does a total non actor get some kind of part or help out in making the Hobbit? It would be a wonderful opportunity to be involved in some way. How does a total non actor get some kind of part or help out in making the Hobbit? It would be a wonderful opportunity to be involved in some way.

]]> By: Garanidhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/comment-page-1/#comment-863 Garanid Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:19:00 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/#comment-863 To IstariAllStar, Tolkien wasn't only inspired by England. He was inspired by Europe and South Africa as well. And modern England looks way too much like a metropolitan place without one piece of naturality. In Tolkien's time it would have looked different. New Zealand, on the other hand, is a widely spread and very beautiful place that does more justice to Middle-earth than English countryside does. And I like lively places. I am sure Tolkien would have agreed NZ to be a wonderful place to set the Hobbit. Questions: 1) Is there any actors that will definetly be starring in the Hobbit (besides McKellen and Serkis), and if so who? 2) What exactly, in brief, is the second movie going to be based around? A brief summary would be appreciated. 3) Are there any possibilities of bringing any of the old cast back and star them in the Hobbit and it's sequel through loopholes in Tolkien's story? 4) When, precisely is the filming for the two movies going to be put into process? 5) Is the Hobbit going to follow the strict structure of the child story and limit it to that, or will we be expecting any changes to broaden the audiences slightly? To IstariAllStar,

Tolkien wasn’t only inspired by England. He was inspired by Europe and South Africa as well. And modern England looks way too much like a metropolitan place without one piece of naturality. In Tolkien’s time it would have looked different. New Zealand, on the other hand, is a widely spread and very beautiful place that does more justice to Middle-earth than English countryside does. And I like lively places. I am sure Tolkien would have agreed NZ to be a wonderful place to set the Hobbit.

Questions:

1) Is there any actors that will definetly be starring in the Hobbit (besides McKellen and Serkis), and if so who?

2) What exactly, in brief, is the second movie going to be based around? A brief summary would be appreciated.

3) Are there any possibilities of bringing any of the old cast back and star them in the Hobbit and it’s sequel through loopholes in Tolkien’s story?

4) When, precisely is the filming for the two movies going to be put into process?

5) Is the Hobbit going to follow the strict structure of the child story and limit it to that, or will we be expecting any changes to broaden the audiences slightly?

]]> By: Todd Hasrwoodhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/comment-page-1/#comment-671 Todd Hasrwood Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:48:51 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/#comment-671 I think that they should make it. They really should have started the movies off with making the Hobbit live action to begin with. That way you could have had the same people playing the parts in all the movies. Yea, I know I'm just a no body that''s talkikng out of my "BUTT", The thing is, if you had taken a pole on what people would have wanted to see in the first place. Just the three Lord of the Rings in live action o all of them in live action, The Hobbit, plus the Three Lord of the Rings, you would have found out that people would have preffered to see all of them done that way. Not to say that now you are goingf to spend how much money to re build how many sets again that you had made for the first three you did. You would have saved time money and resources. I hope that I haven't bored you to tears and thanks for listening. Todd Harwood I think that they should make it. They really should have started the movies off with making the Hobbit live action to begin with. That way you could have had the same people playing the parts in all the movies. Yea, I know I’m just a no body that”s talkikng out of my “BUTT”, The thing is, if you had taken a pole on what people would have wanted to see in the first place. Just the three Lord of the Rings in live action o all of them in live action, The Hobbit, plus the Three Lord of the Rings, you would have found out that people would have preffered to see all of them done that way. Not to say that now you are goingf to spend how much money to re build how many sets again that you had made for the first three you did. You would have saved time money and resources. I hope that I haven’t bored you to tears and thanks for listening. Todd Harwood

]]> By: lokai1701http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/comment-page-1/#comment-540 lokai1701 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:12:44 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/#comment-540 Bilbo was about fifty years old when he left the Shire to journey to the Lonely Mountain and recover the drawves' treasure. So there are about sixty years or so between the end of the hobiit and the beginning of LOTR. The ring slows aging and gives "unnaturally long life". So if Bilbo appears to age only about 10 or 15 years between The Hobbit Movie and LOTR, when he should have aged by 60 years, that would be alright. To cast some one who looks like 20 yrs would be misleading. The actor should probably look forty-ish....... Bilbo was about fifty years old when he left the Shire to journey to the Lonely Mountain and recover the drawves’ treasure. So there are about sixty years or so between the end of the hobiit and the beginning of LOTR. The ring slows aging and gives “unnaturally long life”. So if Bilbo appears to age only about 10 or 15 years between The Hobbit Movie and LOTR, when he should have aged by 60 years, that would be alright.

To cast some one who looks like 20 yrs would be misleading. The actor should probably look forty-ish…….

]]> By: IstariAllStarhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/comment-page-1/#comment-539 IstariAllStar Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:06:44 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/#comment-539 Arwen08, I should imagine both Hobbit movies will be shot in New Zealand which has proved an excellent venue for Tolkien related cinematics! However, it does always strike an nerve with me that they don't attempt to use some of the English Countryside for Tolkien efforts on the big screen. Forever was the old forests and valleys of England in Tolkien's mind when constructing his stories (as mentioned in his numerous notes). I am certain he would like some element of the movies to involve the landscape that inspired his designs. Having been lucky enough to have experienced such beauty, it only leaves me with the feeling that PJ and now Del Toro have been somewhat short sighted to shoot 100% of the movies in New Zealand despite its obvious beauty. Arwen08,

I should imagine both Hobbit movies will be shot in New Zealand which has proved an excellent venue for Tolkien related cinematics! However, it does always strike an nerve with me that they don’t attempt to use some of the English Countryside for Tolkien efforts on the big screen. Forever was the old forests and valleys of England in Tolkien’s mind when constructing his stories (as mentioned in his numerous notes). I am certain he would like some element of the movies to involve the landscape that inspired his designs. Having been lucky enough to have experienced such beauty, it only leaves me with the feeling that PJ and now Del Toro have been somewhat short sighted to shoot 100% of the movies in New Zealand despite its obvious beauty.

]]> By: Arwen08http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/comment-page-1/#comment-537 Arwen08 Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:23:57 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/#comment-537 Is Howard Shore going to compose the music again? He did an outstanding job with the Lord of the Rings. Is the movie going to be filmed in only New Zealand? Is Howard Shore going to compose the music again? He did an outstanding job with the Lord of the Rings.

Is the movie going to be filmed in only New Zealand?

]]> By: Zach Hamiltonhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/comment-page-1/#comment-535 Zach Hamilton Sat, 09 Aug 2008 02:08:49 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/#comment-535 His name is Beorn, Don. I hope he's in the movie too. I'm still mad at Rankin Bass for not putting him in their version of the Hobbit His name is Beorn, Don. I hope he’s in the movie too. I’m still mad at Rankin Bass for not putting him in their version of the Hobbit

]]> By: chomp-ehttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/comment-page-1/#comment-531 chomp-e Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:34:03 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/#comment-531 Also Gandalfs comment ‘You haven’t aged a day’ would naturally mean since the last time he saw Bilbo. This was more recent than the end of ‘The Hobbit’ as evidenced by various factors, not least the fact that Frodo is already friendly with Gandalf meaning that he had visited the shire at least once within the last 30 years. Please correct me if I am wrong on any of these points. Also Gandalfs comment ‘You haven’t aged a day’ would naturally mean since the last time he saw Bilbo. This was more recent than the end of ‘The Hobbit’ as evidenced by various factors, not least the fact that Frodo is already friendly with Gandalf meaning that he had visited the shire at least once within the last 30 years. Please correct me if I am wrong on any of these points.

]]> By: Constantine_Rhttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/comment-page-1/#comment-529 Constantine_R Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:40:22 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/#comment-529 Dear RingAstari i believe you're taking things too stricty. Gandalf is not using the phrase literally. Bilbo is 111 years old in the LOTR and - for even a hobbit - that's too long. He must have been looking like in the end of the film if it wasn't for the ring, but despite that he looks like he is in his mid sixties in human years (and remember, only a year have passed). So Gandalf is using that phrase to his amazement like we use it when we see a familiar person after many years and we're expecting to look older. Besides the book itself mentions that the ring slows the ageing process not STOPING IT. So the actor who plays Bilbo should be at the same age as Elijah Wood yes, but he should also look like Sir Holm at the proluge of the film where is that scene that finds the ring. Dear RingAstari i believe you’re taking things too stricty. Gandalf is not using the phrase literally. Bilbo is 111 years old in the LOTR and – for even a hobbit – that’s too long. He must have been looking like in the end of the film if it wasn’t for the ring, but despite that he looks like he is in his mid sixties in human years (and remember, only a year have passed). So Gandalf is using that phrase to his amazement like we use it when we see a familiar person after many years and we’re expecting to look older. Besides the book itself mentions that the ring slows the ageing process not STOPING IT. So the actor who plays Bilbo should be at the same age as Elijah Wood yes, but he should also look like Sir Holm at the proluge of the film where is that scene that finds the ring.

]]> By: RingAstarihttp://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/comment-page-1/#comment-528 RingAstari Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:00:37 +0000 http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2008/05/16/an-unexpected-party/#comment-528 I have identified a MAJOR problem/continuitu error that in my opinion, is unavoidable for the new Hobbit movie!!! In the Lord of the Rings, Frodo is played by Elijah Wood - a 20 something year old actor. And he looks about this age. In the Hobbit, Bilbo is around the same age when he leaves for his journey, as Frodo is when he leaves for his in Lord of the Rings (yes I know, not exactly the same age.. but close enough in Hobbit years!!!). This means that whoever plays Bilbo in The Hobbit will have to appear to be roughly the same age as Elijah Wood (20 something). However, in the Lord of Rings, Gandalf exclaims to Bilbo (upon seeing him after many years), "you haven't aged a day!" (due to the power of the ring discovered during The Hobbit) And of course at this point, Bilbo is being played by Mr Ian Holm - a somewhat elderly actor. This means that if Ian Holm is cast as Bilbo, there will be a contiuity error in terms of how Hobbits age... I.e. why does Bilbo look 70 something whereas Frodo looked 30 something at around the same (Hobbit) age? If a younger actor is used to avoid this problem... then Gandalf's comment to Bilbo during the Lord of the Rings (mentioned above) will not make sense... causing another continuity error. How do Tel Toro and Jackson intend to counteract this (quite signifcant) problem.The fans will certainly notice it!!!!! I have identified a MAJOR problem/continuitu error that in my opinion, is unavoidable for the new Hobbit movie!!!

In the Lord of the Rings, Frodo is played by Elijah Wood – a 20 something year old actor. And he looks about this age. In the Hobbit, Bilbo is around the same age when he leaves for his journey, as Frodo is when he leaves for his in Lord of the Rings (yes I know, not exactly the same age.. but close enough in Hobbit years!!!). This means that whoever plays Bilbo in The Hobbit will have to appear to be roughly the same age as Elijah Wood (20 something). However, in the Lord of Rings, Gandalf exclaims to Bilbo (upon seeing him after many years), “you haven’t aged a day!” (due to the power of the ring discovered during The Hobbit) And of course at this point, Bilbo is being played by Mr Ian Holm – a somewhat elderly actor.

This means that if Ian Holm is cast as Bilbo, there will be a contiuity error in terms of how Hobbits age… I.e. why does Bilbo look 70 something whereas Frodo looked 30 something at around the same (Hobbit) age? If a younger actor is used to avoid this problem… then Gandalf’s comment to Bilbo during the Lord of the Rings (mentioned above) will not make sense… causing another continuity error.

How do Tel Toro and Jackson intend to counteract this (quite signifcant) problem.The fans will certainly notice it!!!!!

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